drillgyanus visszahivasok megadasa
Mivel mar 3 partiban buktam 1-1 beulot (majdnem) hasonlo leosztassal, igy megkerdem, hogy Ti hogyan jatsznatok meg:
1.
EverestPoker Game #2322782266: Table Malabo-26 - $0.15/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:30:08 - 2007/11/05
Seat 1: trebilad ($24.25)
Seat 2: michael9876 ($8.75)
Seat 3: zazaza ($35.60)
Seat 4: --Fritze-- ($24.60)
Seat 5: papah ($19.25)
Seat 6: Tony1115 ($79.89)
Seat 7: SYSEKAS ($24.90)
Seat 8: cnkillerb ($24.75)
Seat 9: pirpur ($24.60)
Seat 10: khs78 ($5.70)
zazaza posts the small blind of $0.15
--Fritze-- posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb[Ad Kh]
papah calls $0.25
Tony1115 raises to $1.15
SYSEKAS folds
cnkillerb calls $1.15
pirpur folds
khs78 folds
trebilad folds
michael9876 folds
zazaza folds
--Fritze-- folds
papah folds
*** FLOP *** [6h Ac Td]
Tony1115 bets $2.95
cnkillerb raises to $5.90
Tony1115 raises to $20.65
cnkillerb raises to $23.60 and is all-in
Tony1115 calls $2.95
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Tony1115 shows [Th Ts]
cnkillerb shows [Ad Kh]
*** TURN *** [6h Ac Td] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [6h Ac Td 6s] [Ks]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [6h Ac Td 6s Ks]
Tony1115 collects $47.65
2.
EverestPoker Game #2316150396: Table Malabo-31 - $0.15/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:55:18 - 2007/11/04
Seat 1: Ramon_DeLuna ($7.80)
Seat 2: harleymarie ($10.15)
Seat 3: mikejuly ($74.90)
Seat 4: cnkillerb ($24.75)
Seat 5: R_man ($18.65)
Seat 6: Raccoon777 ($10.20)
Seat 7: Zero-Team ($35.45)
Seat 8: fodaum ($26.15)
Seat 9: Born2BeatU ($31.10)
Seat 10: Arenooo ($17.75)
Born2BeatU posts the small blind of $0.15
Arenooo posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb[Ks As]
Ramon_DeLuna folds
harleymarie calls $0.25
mikejuly calls $0.25
cnkillerb raises to $1.40
R_man folds
Raccoon777 folds
Zero-Team folds
fodaum folds
Born2BeatU folds
Arenooo folds
harleymarie calls $1.15
mikejuly calls $1.15
*** FLOP *** [Ad Qc 5c]
harleymarie bets $0.25
mikejuly calls $0.25
cnkillerb raises to $3.00
harleymarie folds
mikejuly calls $2.75
*** TURN *** [Ad Qc 5c] [8d]
mikejuly checks
cnkillerb bets $9.00
mikejuly raises to $18.00
cnkillerb raises to $20.35 and is all-in
mikejuly calls $2.35
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mikejuly shows [Qh Qd]
cnkillerb shows [Ks As]
*** RIVER *** [Ad Qc 5c 8d] [Th]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [Ad Qc 5c 8d Th]
mikejuly collects $49.00
3.
EverestPoker Game #2297084347: Table Malabo-23 - $0.15/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:44:42 - 2007/10/31
Seat 1: cnkillerb ($24.00)
Seat 2: VOYAGEUR56 ($6.10)
Seat 3: lucaxx64 ($24.25)
Seat 4: __JIM__ ($8.48)
Seat 6: mirostalle ($6.27)
Seat 7: ali_mente ($24.85)
Seat 8: mjr54 ($5.90)
Seat 9: Eljardinero ($24.35)
Seat 10: Nico6450 ($28.30)
ali_mente posts the small blind of $0.15
mjr54 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb[Ac Qd]
Eljardinero folds
Nico6450 calls $0.25
cnkillerb raises to $0.80
VOYAGEUR56 folds
lucaxx64 folds
__JIM__ calls $0.80
ali_mente folds
mjr54 folds
Nico6450 calls $0.55
*** FLOP *** [Ad 8c 2h]
Nico6450 checks
cnkillerb bets $1.00
__JIM__ folds
Nico6450 calls $1.00
*** TURN *** [Ad 8c 2h] [7h]
Nico6450 bets $4.80
cnkillerb raises to $22.20 and is all-in
Nico6450 raises to $26.50 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $4.30 returned to Nico6450
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Nico6450 shows [2s 2c]
cnkillerb shows [Ac Qd]
*** RIVER *** [Ad 8c 2h 7h] [7d]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [Ad 8c 2h 7h 7d]
Nico6450 collects $46.75
4.
EverestPoker Game #2316420118: Table Malabo-35 - $0.15/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:40:15 - 2007/11/04
Seat 1: SOMECOP ($40.20)
Seat 2: ol.in.one ($9.85)
Seat 3: bavariahome ($24.75)
Seat 4: TomLaw ($38.36)
Seat 5: aliro ($25.00)
Seat 6: Xandreo ($20.17)
Seat 7: cheyenne44 ($20.59)
Seat 8: --Fritze-- ($27.70)
Seat 10: cnkillerb ($33.80)
SOMECOP posts the small blind of $0.15
ol.in.one posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb[Kc Tc]
bavariahome folds
TomLaw calls $0.25
aliro folds
Xandreo calls $0.25
cheyenne44 folds
--Fritze-- folds
cnkillerb calls $0.25
SOMECOP calls $0.10
ol.in.one checks
*** FLOP *** [Ks Th 5c]
SOMECOP checks
ol.in.one checks
TomLaw checks
Xandreo bets $0.55
cnkillerb raises to $1.10
SOMECOP folds
ol.in.one folds
TomLaw folds
Xandreo calls $0.55
*** TURN *** [Ks Th 5c] [2d]
Xandreo checks
cnkillerb bets $2.00
Xandreo raises to $5.00
cnkillerb calls $3.00
*** RIVER *** [Ks Th 5c 2d] [Jc]
Xandreo bets $13.45
cnkillerb raises to $27.45 and is all-in
Xandreo calls $0.37 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $13.63 returned to cnkillerb
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cnkillerb shows [Kc Tc]
Xandreo shows [5h 5d]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [Ks Th 5c 2d Jc]
Xandreo collects $39.04
Ugye mind a negynel kozos, hogy A-val top parom volt es eleg magas kicker (a negyediknel meg 2 par). De az ellenfelnel ott lapult a drill.
Hosszutavon erdemes megadni ezeket es lenyelni, ha drill ellen vesztunk, vagy inkabb passzolni kell?
no igen, ezek nekem is vesszőparipáim.....
Ha nagyon nyomul az ellen, előfordul, hogy el tudok dobni TPTK-t.
de sokszor kifizetem őket én is.
nekem se nagyon van rá receptem. ha úgy érzed, hogy túl sok pénz kockáztatsz a kézzel, vagy ténylegesen van valamije az aggresszornak, akkor dobd be.
Majd kifizet legközelebb, ahogy Te tennéd most.
ez is előnye a több asztalos játéknak, hogy előfordult, hogy könnyebben dobtam be a kétesélyes lapomat, mikor megláttam, hogy a másik asztalon ott figyel a nutom, sinkább arra szentelteltem a figyelmemet és a pénzemet.
Szerintem túl agresszíven játszod meg ezeket a TPTK/TPGK típusú lapokat.Szinte mindegyik leosztásban reraiselsz velük.
1.hand:
Flopon én csak megadnám, vagy ha már emeltél, és utána jön az all-in akkor fold.
2.
Turn check, bevállalva a freecardot, de ilyen lappal azért nem kell nagyon nagy potot építeni.
3.Itt sem értem hogy miért kell betolni az all-int...
4.Check-raise már valamit sejtet...ezt nagyon nehéz eldobni, ezt lehet hogy én is megadtam volna, nem all-in.(de itt volt egyedül 2párod)
Na KT-el én is megszívtam.Riverjáték teljesen hibás szerintem....Check fold kellett volna...
EverestPoker Game #2323813537: Table Muscat-24 - $0.15/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 00:45:36 - 2007/11/06
Seat 1: Referee87 ($25.70)
Seat 2: Pokercopa ($24.10)
Seat 3: Shurik.N ($24.93)
Seat 4: ottawa ($24.85)
Seat 5: loregrillo ($48.60)
Seat 6: graoude ($3.40)
ottawa posts the small blind of $0.15
loregrillo posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Referee87[Kh Th]
graoude calls $0.25
Referee87 calls $0.25
Pokercopa folds
Shurik.N calls $0.25
ottawa calls $0.10
loregrillo checks
*** FLOP *** [6d Ts Ks]
ottawa checks
loregrillo checks
graoude checks
Referee87 bets $1.00
Shurik.N calls $1.00
ottawa folds
loregrillo folds
graoude calls $1.00
*** TURN *** [6d Ts Ks] [8c]
graoude checks
Referee87 bets $2.00
Shurik.N calls $2.00
graoude calls $2.00
*** RIVER *** [6d Ts Ks 8c] [7d]
graoude checks
Referee87 bets $2.00
Shurik.N raises to $4.00
graoude folds
Referee87 calls $2.00
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Shurik.N shows [9s 7s]
Referee87 mucks
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [6d Ts Ks 8c 7d]
Shurik.N collects $17.35
Erről mi a véleményetek?
EverestPoker Game #2323828884: Table Muscat-3 - $0.15/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 00:50:35 - 2007/11/06
Seat 2: Referee87 ($24.35)
Seat 3: capuano ($39.50)
Seat 4: Funfun47 ($21.00)
Seat 5: GuilleB ($25.80)
Seat 6: 16s ($18.80)
capuano posts the small blind of $0.15
Funfun47 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Referee87[Ac Ah]
GuilleB calls $0.25
16s folds
Referee87 raises to $1.25
capuano calls $1.10
Funfun47 folds
GuilleB folds
*** FLOP *** [9h 3s 6c]
capuano checks
Referee87 bets $2.00
capuano calls $2.00
*** TURN *** [9h 3s 6c] [Tc]
capuano bets $7.00
Referee87 ???
All-in ;)
Erről mi a véleményetek?
hasonlo esetek pozitiv kimenetellel
medgypeti emlitetted, hogy ezeket tul aggressziven jatszom meg. Felrakok nehany esetet, amikor epp az ellenfel semi-bloffjet fogtam meg latszolag teljesen hasonlo korulmenyek kozott:
1.
EverestPoker Game #2306460065: Table Malabo-31 - $0.15/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:39:00 - 2007/11/02
Seat 2: Stefan20 ($31.60)
Seat 3: crevetman ($38.99)
Seat 4: cnkillerb ($22.60)
Seat 5: Barbaror ($22.15)
Seat 6: Dr.N00 ($15.85)
Seat 7: j-paul ($3.80)
Seat 8: BABBOUCH ($2.85)
Seat 9: xelnaga ($19.95)
BABBOUCH posts the small blind of $0.15
xelnaga posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb[As Kh]
Stefan20 folds
crevetman raises to $0.90
cnkillerb calls $0.90
Barbaror folds
Dr.N00 folds
j-paul folds
BABBOUCH folds
xelnaga calls $0.65
*** FLOP *** [4d 4h Ah]
xelnaga checks
crevetman bets $2.85
cnkillerb raises to $5.70
xelnaga folds
crevetman raises to $19.95
cnkillerb raises to $21.70 and is all-in
crevetman calls $1.75
*** SHOW DOWN ***
crevetman shows [Ac Kc]
cnkillerb shows [As Kh]
*** TURN *** [4d 4h Ah] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [4d 4h Ah 8h] [6h]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [4d 4h Ah 8h 6h]
cnkillerb collects $43.95
---ok, itt nagy makom is volt, itt a splitt pot volt a valoszinubb kimenetel---
2.
EverestPoker Game #2306360575: Table Malabo-37 - $0.15/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:21:34 - 2007/11/02
Seat 1: Bockeroth ($3.40)
Seat 2: schell ($30.70)
Seat 3: cnkillerb ($28.35)
Seat 4: rhapsody31 ($35.08)
Seat 5: electro-head ($30.68)
Seat 6: Superpliepo ($51.85)
Seat 8: RICHYMONA ($14.68)
Seat 9: -sergioz- ($15.05)
Seat 10: strg67 ($15.07)
schell posts the small blind of $0.15
cnkillerb posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb[Ks Ad]
rhapsody31 calls $0.25
electro-head calls $0.25
Superpliepo folds
RICHYMONA folds
-sergioz- calls $0.25
strg67 folds
Bockeroth raises to $1.65
schell folds
cnkillerb calls $1.40
rhapsody31 calls $1.40
electro-head folds
-sergioz- calls $1.40
*** FLOP *** [9c 5h Kd]
cnkillerb bets $4.00
rhapsody31 calls $4.00
-sergioz- calls $4.00
Bockeroth folds
*** TURN *** [9c 5h Kd] [Js]
cnkillerb bets $22.70 and is all-in
rhapsody31 folds
-sergioz- calls $9.40 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $13.30 returned to cnkillerb
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cnkillerb shows [Ks Ad]
-sergioz- shows [Qd Kh]
*** RIVER *** [9c 5h Kd Js] [5s]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [9c 5h Kd Js 5s]
cnkillerb collects $35.95
3.
EverestPoker Game #2316588180: Table Malabo-16 - $0.15/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:07:22 - 2007/11/04
Seat 1: bakakaka ($3.05)
Seat 2: aliro ($24.25)
Seat 3: Pissacan ($10.25)
Seat 4: chr4sh ($20.75)
Seat 5: chris.34 ($46.40)
Seat 6: nik58 ($16.00)
Seat 7: HoneyRyder6 ($25.20)
Seat 8: kunforlan ($6.75)
Seat 9: GrandMarnier ($28.60)
Seat 10: cnkillerb ($15.70)
nik58 posts the small blind of $0.15
HoneyRyder6 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb[Kh Ah]
kunforlan folds
GrandMarnier folds
cnkillerb raises to $0.90
bakakaka folds
aliro folds
Pissacan calls $0.90
chr4sh raises to $2.00
chris.34 folds
nik58 folds
HoneyRyder6 folds
cnkillerb calls $1.10
Pissacan calls $1.10
*** FLOP *** [8c As 5c]
cnkillerb bets $2.00
Pissacan raises to $8.25 and is all-in
chr4sh folds
cnkillerb calls $6.25
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cnkillerb shows [Kh Ah]
Pissacan shows [Th Ad]
*** TURN *** [8c As 5c] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [8c As 5c 7d] [2h]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [8c As 5c 7d 2h]
cnkillerb collects $21.80
Egyebkent az igy megjatszott lapok nagyjabol (eddig) nullszadosak (kb 10 eset NL25-on). Ha mindig bebodnam oket, akkor meg kb -2 beulo lenne (az addig berakott tetek miatt)
Velemeny?
Nos, azért ezek között a lejátszások között, és a drilles lejátszások között elég nagy a különbség(2.nál te mentél all-in, ő csak call, 3. nál meg már nagyon kevés pénze volt), kivéve az elsőt, ahol mindkettőtöknek AK-a volt.
Szerintem legtöbben a drillt itt úgy játszák, hogy check-call-olnak floppon, aztán check-raiselnek turnön.
Dry floppon, ha a flop játék is gyanús(limpel, aztán megadja az emelést) flop bet megadása után néha checkelnék, és megnézném mit lép, vagy 2/3 potbet után ha rámemel akkor dobnám.
Azért ezeket a TPTK vs. set akciókat meg lehet olcsóbban is úszni...általában itt ha nem biztos valaki a kezében, akkor check-callol riverig, ritkán ízmoznak igazán 2 pár alatt...meg persze a folyamatos readek nagyon fontosak..elsők között van amit notes-olok egy playaról, hogy setet hogy játsza meg.....javaslom ezt neked is