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Bajkevero
2007. okt. 22. 16:00

Bukorepules -- segitseg !!!!

3 napja a $600-os bonus es a 27%-os rakeback remenyeben atmentem a Full Tilt oldalra. Arra szamitottam, hogy a grafika/programatallas okozhat egy kis veszteseget. Az elso session ennek ellenere szamomra paradesan ert veget, 1 ora alatt NL10-en $14 plusz.

A kovetkezo sessionok viszont katasztrofalisak voltak, bukas, bukas utan. 1-2 nap pihi utan ujra nekiveselkedtem, de a mai session talan meg kiabranditobb. Ime nehany party, ami elvitte a penzt:

#1
FullTiltPoker Game #3931462016: Table Windmill - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:17:26 ET - 2007/10/22
Seat 1: cnkillerb ($8.15)
Seat 2: JULIUS244 ($4.55)
Seat 3: IMTD ($5.85)
Seat 4: andypresto ($3.10)
Seat 5: Blackened76 ($6.65)
Seat 6: GIGEGIG ($3.90)
Seat 7: LudiD ($8.35)
Seat 8: JackMalloy ($2.25)
Seat 9: Mr_acs ($12.90)
Blackened76 posts the small blind of $0.05
GIGEGIG posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb [Qd As]
LudiD folds
JackMalloy folds
Mr_acs calls $0.10
cnkillerb calls $0.10
JULIUS244 folds
IMTD raises to $0.55
andypresto folds
Blackened76 folds
GIGEGIG calls $0.45
Mr_acs has 15 seconds left to act
Mr_acs folds
cnkillerb calls $0.45
*** FLOP *** [5s 9c Ad]
GIGEGIG checks
cnkillerb has 15 seconds left to act
cnkillerb bets $1
IMTD calls $1
GIGEGIG folds
*** TURN *** [5s 9c Ad] [5h]
cnkillerb checks
IMTD bets $3.80
cnkillerb raises to $6.60, and is all in
IMTD calls $0.50, and is all in
cnkillerb shows [Qd As]
IMTD shows [Ac Jh]
Uncalled bet of $2.30 returned to cnkillerb
*** RIVER *** [5s 9c Ad 5h] [Js]
cnkillerb shows two pair, Aces and Fives
IMTD shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
IMTD wins the pot ($11.20) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.40 | Rake $1.20
Board: [5s 9c Ad 5h Js]
Seat 1: cnkillerb showed [Qd As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 2: JULIUS244 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: IMTD showed [Ac Jh] and won ($11.20) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 4: andypresto (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Blackened76 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: GIGEGIG (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: LudiD didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: JackMalloy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Mr_acs folded before the Flop

#2
FullTiltPoker Game #3931468444: Table Desert Marigold - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:19:12 ET - 2007/10/22
Seat 1: choyachoya ($2.25)
Seat 2: Indianlil ($8.95)
Seat 3: mek123mek ($11.45)
Seat 4: cnkillerb ($10.85)
Seat 5: Narach521 ($0.80)
Seat 6: blingblingbuggy ($4)
Seat 7: JULIUS244 ($5.10)
Seat 8: squiloogle ($10)
Seat 9: mirk191 ($4.15)
squiloogle posts the small blind of $0.05
mirk191 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb [Kd Kh]
choyachoya calls $0.10
Indianlil folds
mek123mek folds
cnkillerb raises to $0.40
Narach521 folds
blingblingbuggy raises to $1
JULIUS244 folds
squiloogle folds
mirk191 folds
choyachoya folds
cnkillerb calls $0.60
*** FLOP *** [3c Qs 4d]
cnkillerb bets $2
blingblingbuggy raises to $3, and is all in
cnkillerb calls $1
blingblingbuggy shows [Ac Ad]
cnkillerb shows [Kd Kh]
*** TURN *** [3c Qs 4d] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [3c Qs 4d 3h] [6s]
blingblingbuggy shows two pair, Aces and Threes
cnkillerb shows two pair, Kings and Threes
blingblingbuggy wins the pot ($7.45) with two pair, Aces and Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.80
Board: [3c Qs 4d 3h 6s]
Seat 1: choyachoya folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Indianlil didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: mek123mek didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: cnkillerb showed [Kd Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 5: Narach521 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: blingblingbuggy showed [Ac Ad] and won ($7.45) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 7: JULIUS244 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: squiloogle (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: mirk191 (big blind) folded before the Flop

#3
FullTiltPoker Game #3931400913: Table Sierra Vista - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:00:42 ET - 2007/10/22
Seat 1: choyachoya ($1.70)
Seat 2: VM47 ($5.65)
Seat 3: Edensydney ($31)
Seat 4: HolyMolyOlti ($2.50)
Seat 6: Mr_acs ($10.60)
Seat 7: christic ($2.35)
Seat 8: M2kM ($11)
Seat 9: cnkillerb ($7.25)
Mr_acs posts the small blind of $0.05
christic has 5 seconds left to act
christic posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb [8s 8h]
M2kM calls $0.10
cnkillerb calls $0.10
choyachoya folds
VM47 folds
Edensydney folds
HolyMolyOlti folds
Mr_acs has 15 seconds left to act
Mr_acs calls $0.05
madelmex sits down
christic raises to $0.35
madelmex adds $5
M2kM folds
cnkillerb calls $0.25
Mr_acs folds
*** FLOP *** [8c Qd Ah]
christic bets $0.50
cnkillerb raises to $1
christic calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [8c Qd Ah] [9h]
christic checks
cnkillerb bets $1
christic calls $1, and is all in
cnkillerb shows [8s 8h]
christic shows [Qh Jd]
*** RIVER *** [8c Qd Ah 9h] [Tc]
cnkillerb shows three of a kind, Eights
christic shows a straight, Queen high
christic wins the pot ($4.45) with a straight, Queen high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.90 | Rake $0.45
Board: [8c Qd Ah 9h Tc]
Seat 1: choyachoya didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: VM47 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Edensydney didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: HolyMolyOlti didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Mr_acs (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: christic (big blind) showed [Qh Jd] and won ($4.45) with a straight, Queen high
Seat 8: M2kM folded before the Flop
Seat 9: cnkillerb showed [8s 8h] and lost with three of a kind, Eights

#4
FullTiltPoker Game #3931279713: Table Boulder - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:25:53 ET - 2007/10/22
Seat 1: salkewl ($5.25)
Seat 2: rextyrann ($9.65)
Seat 3: KingCash1000 ($1.75)
Seat 4: Borismisha ($5.95)
Seat 5: pambini ($21.85)
Seat 6: Hooaah111 ($3.90)
Seat 7: CJRELL ($7.80)
Seat 8: cenevold5184 ($2.35)
Seat 9: cnkillerb ($11.85)
Hooaah111 posts the small blind of $0.05
CJRELL posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb [Jh Jd]
cenevold5184 folds
cnkillerb raises to $0.50
salkewl folds
rextyrann folds
KingCash1000 folds
Borismisha raises to $1.65
pambini folds
Hooaah111 calls $1.60
CJRELL folds
cnkillerb calls $1.15
*** FLOP *** [5c Tc 2c]
Hooaah111 bets $2.25, and is all in
cnkillerb folds
Borismisha calls $2.25
Hooaah111 shows [Qh Qc]
Borismisha shows [Kd Kh]
*** TURN *** [5c Tc 2c] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [5c Tc 2c Jc] [5h]
Hooaah111 shows a flush, Queen high
Borismisha shows two pair, Kings and Fives
Hooaah111 wins the pot ($8.60) with a flush, Queen high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.55 | Rake $0.95
Board: [5c Tc 2c Jc 5h]
Seat 1: salkewl didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: rextyrann didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: KingCash1000 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Borismisha showed [Kd Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Fives
Seat 5: pambini (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Hooaah111 (small blind) showed [Qh Qc] and won ($8.60) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 7: CJRELL (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: cenevold5184 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: cnkillerb folded on the Flop

Itt mondjuk ugyesen kiszalltam


#5
FullTiltPoker Game #3931444816: Table Beale - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:12:46 ET - 2007/10/22
Seat 1: spinallin ($7.50)
Seat 2: MrXdu ($5.05)
Seat 3: cnkillerb ($12.60)
Seat 4: the marginator ($9.70)
Seat 5: houtvlot ($13.80)
Seat 6: Really112 ($13.95)
Seat 7: Windforce ($10.55)
Seat 8: Altec300 ($16.20)
Seat 9: aandrius ($8.90)
cnkillerb posts the small blind of $0.05
the marginator posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb [Ad Qs]
houtvlot folds
Really112 calls $0.10
Windforce folds
Altec300 folds
aandrius calls $0.10
spinallin has 15 seconds left to act
spinallin calls $0.10
MrXdu calls $0.10
cnkillerb calls $0.05
the marginator checks
*** FLOP *** [Qc Qd 8s]
cnkillerb has 15 seconds left to act
cnkillerb checks
the marginator checks
Really112 checks
aandrius checks
spinallin has 15 seconds left to act
spinallin checks
MrXdu checks
*** TURN *** [Qc Qd 8s] [7d]
cnkillerb bets $0.30
the marginator folds
Really112 folds
aandrius folds
spinallin folds
MrXdu calls $0.30
*** RIVER *** [Qc Qd 8s 7d] [5d]
cnkillerb checks
MrXdu bets $1.20
cnkillerb calls $1.20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MrXdu shows [5s 5h] a full house, Fives full of Queens
cnkillerb mucks
MrXdu wins the pot ($3.25) with a full house, Fives full of Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.60 | Rake $0.35
Board: [Qc Qd 8s 7d 5d]
Seat 1: spinallin folded on the Turn
Seat 2: MrXdu (button) showed [5s 5h] and won ($3.25) with a full house, Fives full of Queens
Seat 3: cnkillerb (small blind) mucked [Ad Qs] - three of a kind, Queens
Seat 4: the marginator (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: houtvlot didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Really112 folded on the Turn
Seat 7: Windforce didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Altec300 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: aandrius folded on the Turn


#6
FullTiltPoker Game #3931384061: Table American Pacific - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:56:02 ET - 2007/10/22
Seat 1: NilleC ($10)
Seat 2: UrSoWeAk ($9.55)
Seat 3: Ripatti82 ($17.80)
Seat 4: VM47 ($2.75)
Seat 5: soarsoar ($9.90)
Seat 6: cenevold5184 ($2.95)
Seat 7: steph-the-frog ($1.35)
Seat 8: cnkillerb ($9.90)
Seat 9: monteMono ($9.30)
Ripatti82 posts the small blind of $0.05
VM47 posts the big blind of $0.10
5 seconds left to act
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cnkillerb [Kc Ac]
soarsoar calls $0.10
cenevold5184 folds
steph-the-frog raises to $1.35, and is all in
cnkillerb has 15 seconds left to act
cnkillerb calls $1.35
monteMono folds
UrSoWeAk calls $1.35
Ripatti82 folds
VM47 folds
soarsoar folds
*** FLOP *** [2c 8h 8c]
cnkillerb bets $2
UrSoWeAk folds
cnkillerb shows [Kc Ac]
steph-the-frog shows [Qd 2d]
Uncalled bet of $2 returned to cnkillerb
*** TURN *** [2c 8h 8c] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [2c 8h 8c 3s] [6h]
cnkillerb shows a pair of Eights
steph-the-frog shows two pair, Eights and Twos
steph-the-frog wins the pot ($3.90) with two pair, Eights and Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.30 | Rake $0.40
Board: [2c 8h 8c 3s 6h]
Seat 1: NilleC is sitting out
Seat 2: UrSoWeAk (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Ripatti82 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: VM47 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: soarsoar folded before the Flop
Seat 6: cenevold5184 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: steph-the-frog showed [Qd 2d] and won ($3.90) with two pair, Eights and Twos
Seat 8: cnkillerb showed [Kc Ac] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: monteMono didn't bet (folded)

Ezeknek egy reszet lehet bad beatnek felfogni, de ami meg aggasztobb, hogy nagy lapjaimat szinte sosem fizettek ki, plusz jatek kozben folydogalt el a penzem a vakoknal, plusz a gyengebb lapokkal (alacsony par, Axs) valo limpeles soran. Mellekelten csatolom az utolso session statisztikait, valamint, hogy melyik kombinacio mennyit hozott (vitt el) a konyhara.

Mit tegyek? 3 session alatt tobb mint $40 minuszban vagyok NL10-en.
Ez most egy rosszabb szeria,amit tul kell elnem, vagy alapvetoen rosszul jatszom?

Elore is koszi minden segitseget!

medgypeti
Válasz Bajkevero kommentjére
2007. okt. 22. 16:23

Ma eddig én is így állok...

Bajkevero
Válasz medgypeti kommentjére
2007. okt. 22. 16:29

Jo, de mit csinaljak?

medgypeti
Válasz Bajkevero kommentjére
2007. okt. 22. 16:30

Jo, de mit csinaljak?


Én most először is kétségbe esem...

want2push
Válasz medgypeti kommentjére
2007. okt. 22. 16:39

Én a handek és statok alapján semmi különöset nem látok. 558 hand alatt elment 2 buy in, és ahogy a felrakott partikat néztem volt jó pár bad beat, de azok is inkább kis stackek ellen. Ezért még nem kell kétségbeesni.

Én tegnap voltam 8 buy in minuszban is, végül megúsztam a napot 4 beülő buktával. Előző nap meg pont annyit nyertem, de ott sokkal nagyobb pluszban is voltam, amikor kb. 5 perc alatt elment több mint 4 buy in (hiba nélkül).

Pl. Ugyanazon jó regular ellenfél ellen ugyanabban a pillanatban full stackkel KK mindkét asztalon. Első asztalon emelek UTG-ről, visszahív rám BB-ről, amit preflop megadok, majd a flopon reraise all in rakom. Nála AA. A másik partiban, meg részben ennek következtében sikerült preflop all in mennem ellene KK-vl, nála AKo, aztán meg a river egy ász. Utána elnézést is kért, az egyik ellenfél meg a kommentjére beírta, hogy ő biztos "life tilt"-re kerülni két ilyen bukott parti után.

Szóval az ingadozás, a komolyabb kilengések a játék velejárói, amit te küldtél, az még sztem nem tűnik olyan vészesnek.

medgypeti
Válasz want2push kommentjére
2007. okt. 22. 17:03



Szóval az ingadozás, a komolyabb kilengések a játék velejárói, amit te küldtél, az még sztem nem tűnik olyan vészesnek.



Az a baj én még nem tudok feldolgozni olyan könnyedén 4-5 buyines downswingeket.Pedig muszáj lesz megtanulnom...

spirited
Válasz want2push kommentjére
2007. okt. 22. 17:15

Nem kell kétségbe esni, pár buyinig nincs semmi gond. Én azt a taktikát szoktam alkalmazni, hogy akármilyen kevés pénzem van a terembe, nem fizetek be, csak ha teljesen lenullázom magam. Ilyenkor short stackként játszok vagy ha már ahhoz sincs pénezem akkor visszalépek egy szintet. Tegnap buktam 8 buyint, ma meg játszok shorstacket, nincs ezzel semmi gond. Most buktam még 2 buyint, mindjárt megyek vissza egy szinttel lejjebb.

medgypeti
Válasz spirited kommentjére
2007. okt. 22. 17:19

Nem kell kétségbe esni, pár buyinig nincs semmi gond. Én azt a taktikát szoktam alkalmazni, hogy akármilyen kevés pénzem van a terembe, nem fizetek be, csak ha teljesen lenullázom magam. Ilyenkor short stackként játszok vagy ha már ahhoz sincs pénezem akkor visszalépek egy szintet. Tegnap buktam 8 buyint, ma meg játszok shorstacket, nincs ezzel semmi gond. Most buktam még 2 buyint, mindjárt megyek vissza egy szinttel lejjebb.



Mondjuk én nem szoktam lenullázni magam, eléggé szívás lenne ha a hónapok alatt összekuporgatott br-om lenulláznám!

spirited
Válasz medgypeti kommentjére
2007. okt. 22. 18:45

Mondjuk én nem szoktam lenullázni magam, eléggé szívás lenne ha a hónapok alatt összekuporgatott br-om lenulláznám!


Azert ez nálam se rendszeres, ebben a hónapban 1x sikerült összehozni. Nem a teljes br bánta, csak ami a termben volt. Igaz, az se volt kevés. Biztonsági okokból a br nagyrészét mb-n tartom, a teremben meg csak annyit amennyi feltétlenül kell. Ez a hónapom kb. nullásra fog kijönni vagy kis minuszra. Még jó, hogy van cashback. :)

Littlemage
Válasz spirited kommentjére
2007. okt. 22. 19:34

Ami nálad nem kevés :))))
spirited, Te amúgy ebből élsz? :)

off:

Ja, s a videódhoz, hogy-hogy nem használod a 4 színű kártyát? tizenx asztalon nem nézted még el a fekete vagy piros kártyákat ugyanolyannak? :))))

Velem töredéke asztalon is előfordult már.