Stop-loss. - 4 BI-nél befejezem a napot (- 6 BI-ről álltam fel), mert teljes tilt-re mennék. Ongame-es pályafutásom abszolút mélyrepülés eddig, kijelenthetem, hogy nem bírok a rengeteg fish-el és shortstacker-el. Játékom teljesen a darabjaira hullott. Lehet, hogy Ongame mégse nekem való és be kellene ezt már látnom?
Stop-loss. - 4 BI-nél befejezem a napot (- 6 BI-ről álltam fel), mert teljes tilt-re mennék. Ongame-es pályafutásom abszolút mélyrepülés eddig, kijelenthetem, hogy nem bírok a rengeteg fish-el és shortstacker-el. Játékom teljesen a darabjaira hullott. Lehet, hogy Ongame mégse nekem való és be kellene ezt már látnom?
Stop-loss. - 4 BI-nél befejezem a napot (- 6 BI-ről álltam fel)
hey
sima ongame vagy bwinen tolod?
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Fel vagyok iratkozva a Daily Variance mailing list-re, ahol slowhabit szokott írni elég nagy igazságokat. A tegnapi különösen megérintett:
"Hi, this is Tri.
I hear a lot of players say this and it gets funnier every time I hear it. The reason is, they don't play solid. What they meant is they play in a robotic manner and hope to cooler someone. So when they win these big cooler pots, they play well and run well. If they lose, they run bad. There is some truth to this because you obviously run bad if you don't win the cooler pots.
But poker is much more than those big cooler pots. Poker is a game that is defined by better players accumulating small edges here and there. When you sit and play a solid game, better players are taking a more active role in maximizing their EV. One example, they play with a little more aggression. They fight extra hard for pots. They think of opponents' ranges before betting. They dictate the flow of the game and is always aware of their images.
People usually say they play a good game and they are just running bad. But whenever we have sweating sessions, there are so many small things they miss out. Three notable examples are cbetting too much, neglecting the small pots, and passive pre-flop play. It's hard to detect these problems because if you knew it, you would have fixed it already. When we look over our sessions, we usually focus on the big pots that we win/lose but neglect to think about our overall game and what we can do to improve it. A player who is active pre-flop will take a lot of uncontested pots and thus, don't have to win those big cooler pots to have a winning session. It's amazing how Doyle was sooo ahead of his time.
Next time when you're at the table, remember to think throughly about a situation before clicking a button. Don't be lazy. Talk aloud. Practice. Perhaps you'll realize that maybe, just maybe, you weren't as solid as you assumed.
Good luck,
- Tri"
Nemrég sikerült megszereznem a "No-Limit Workbook" című könyvét, ami a regulárok elleni játékra van kihegyezve (Ongame fish-ek ellen használhatatlan:)) ) és sokat sikerült belőle tanulnom. Rengeteg példa van benne, nyugodt szívvel tudom ajánlani bárkinek
Ma vegyes session Stars-on (nullás) és Ongame-en (+1 BI). Ahol jól ment:
1. Aggro spew monkey
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight | fold when you know you're beat
Stacks:
UTG ($26.59)
UTG+1 ($35.08)
RobinMasters (CO) ($25.35)
BTN ($11.51)
SB ($32.87)
BB ($25.46)
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) RobinMasters is CO :ks: :8s:
2 folds, RobinMasters raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50
Flop: :as: :3h: :ah: ($1.60, 2 players)
BB checks, RobinMasters bets $0.90, BB raises to $3, RobinMasters raises to $6, BB calls $3
Turn: :kc: ($13.60, 2 players)
BB checks, RobinMasters checks
River: :6h: ($13.60, 2 players)
BB goes all-in $18.71, RobinMasters goes all-in $18.60
Final Pot: $50.91
BB shows a pair of Aces
:5s: :7s:
RobinMasters shows two pair, Aces and Kings
:ks: :8s:
RobinMasters wins $48.80 (net +$23.45)
BB collects $0.11 (net -$25.35)
2. 17/15
$0.10/$0.20 No Limit Holdem
OnGame
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight | fold when you know you're beat
Stacks:
UTG ($20)
RobinMasters (UTG+1) ($23.90)
CO ($21.83)
BTN ($20)
SB ($22.23)
BB ($20)
Pre-Flop: ($0.30, 6 players) RobinMasters is UTG+1 :kd: :ah:
UTG raises to $0.80, RobinMasters raises to $2.50, 4 folds, UTG calls $1.70
Flop: :qh: :ks: :js: ($5.30, 2 players)
UTG checks, RobinMasters checks
Turn: :4h: ($5.30, 2 players)
UTG bets $3.50, RobinMasters calls $3.50
River: :qd: ($12.30, 2 players)
UTG bets $9, RobinMasters calls $9
Final Pot: $30.30
UTG shows TWO_PAIR QUEEN, SIX
:6c: :6d:
RobinMasters shows TWO_PAIR KING, QUEEN
:kd: :ah:
RobinMasters wins $28.79 (net +$13.79)
UTG lost $15
3. 15/9
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight | fold when you know you're beat
Stacks:
UTG ($34.59)
UTG+1 ($25.77)
RobinMasters (CO) ($44.36)
BTN ($32.04)
SB ($27.05)
BB ($26.10)
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) RobinMasters is CO :ks: :kd:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, RobinMasters raises to $2.30, 1 fold, SB calls $2.20, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1.55
Flop: :tc: :3d: :6s: ($7.15, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, RobinMasters bets $3.50, SB calls $3.50, UTG+1 folds
Turn: :ad: ($14.15, 2 players)
SB bets $4.50, RobinMasters calls $4.50
River: :3s: ($23.15, 2 players)
SB bets $4.50, RobinMasters calls $4.50
Final Pot: $32.15
SB shows two pair, Jacks and Threes
:js: :jd:
RobinMasters shows two pair, Kings and Threes
:ks: :kd:
RobinMasters wins $30.60 (net +$15.80)
SB lost $14.80
UTG+1 lost $2.30
4. 24/16
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight | fold when you know you're beat
Stacks:
UTG ($14.90)
UTG+1 ($27.03)
CO ($26.63)
RobinMasters (BTN) ($25.42)
SB ($22.54)
BB ($25)
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) RobinMasters is BTN :ah: :qh:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, RobinMasters raises to $2.30, 2 folds, CO calls $1.55
Flop: :5d: :8c: :qc: ($4.95, 2 players)
CO checks, RobinMasters bets $2.40, CO calls $2.40
Turn: :2c: ($9.75, 2 players)
CO checks, RobinMasters bets $4.70, CO calls $4.70
River: :3c: ($19.15, 2 players)
CO checks, RobinMasters checks
Final Pot: $19.15
CO shows a pair of Eights
:8h: :7h:
RobinMasters shows a pair of Queens
:ah: :qh:
RobinMasters wins $18.22 (net +$8.82)
CO lost $9.40
5. Aggro fish
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight | fold when you know you're beat
Stacks:
CO ($28.06)
BTN ($24.65)
SB ($56.77)
RobinMasters (BB) ($27.08)
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 4 players) RobinMasters is BB :9d: :9h:
2 folds, SB raises to $0.65, RobinMasters raises to $1.95, SB calls $1.30
Flop: :6h: :6c: :3c: ($3.90, 2 players)
SB checks, RobinMasters bets $1.85, SB calls $1.85
Turn: :th: ($7.60, 2 players)
SB checks, RobinMasters checks
River: :5d: ($7.60, 2 players)
SB bets $3.25, RobinMasters calls $3.25
Final Pot: $14.10
SB shows a pair of Sixes
:js: :qc:
RobinMasters shows two pair, Nines and Sixes
:9d: :9h:
RobinMasters wins $13.42 (net +$6.37)
SB lost $7.05
És ahol nem:
1. Ez nagyon szép volt. 14/9. A tervem 3 utcás bet lett volna, mert wtsd elég alacsony volt. Csodálatos river
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight | fold when you know you're beat
Stacks:
RobinMasters (UTG) ($25.37)
UTG+1 ($23.83)
CO ($25.36)
BTN ($29.62)
SB ($31.58)
BB ($12)
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) RobinMasters is UTG :qh: :as:
RobinMasters raises to $0.75, 1 fold, CO calls $0.75, 3 folds
Flop: :7d: :3d: :2c: ($1.85, 2 players)
RobinMasters bets $1.10, CO calls $1.10
Turn: :5s: ($4.05, 2 players)
RobinMasters bets $2.30, CO calls $2.30
River: :4h: ($8.65, 2 players)
RobinMasters checks, CO bets $5.35, RobinMasters calls $5.35
Final Pot: $19.35
RobinMasters shows
:qh: :as:
CO shows a straight, Three to Seven
:6d: :6s:
CO wins $18.41 (net +$8.91)
RobinMasters lost $9.50
2. Az indukálás rendben volt, nem tudtam dobni. Maniac
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight | fold when you know you're beat
Stacks:
RobinMasters (UTG) ($26.39)
UTG+1 ($23.86)
CO ($16.55)
BTN ($12)
SB ($25)
BB ($27.84)
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) RobinMasters is UTG :9d: :9h:
RobinMasters raises to $0.75, 1 fold, CO calls $0.75, 3 folds
Flop: :6h: :6c: :2c: ($1.85, 2 players)
RobinMasters bets $1.20, CO raises to $2.75, RobinMasters calls $1.55
Turn: :jc: ($7.35, 2 players)
RobinMasters checks, CO bets $3.75, RobinMasters calls $3.75
River: :6s: ($14.85, 2 players)
RobinMasters checks, CO goes all-in $9.30, RobinMasters calls $9.30
Final Pot: $33.45
RobinMasters shows a full house, Sixes full of Nines
:9d: :9h:
CO shows a full house, Sixes full of Jacks
:jh: :ac:
CO wins $31.82 (net +$15.27)
RobinMasters lost $16.55
3. Limpelő hal. Flop-olt 2 párnál garantált, hogy állandóan szívok
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight | fold when you know you're beat
Stacks:
UTG ($22.02)
UTG+1 ($11.90)
CO ($27.03)
BTN ($30.34)
SB ($9.42)
RobinMasters (BB) ($29.13)
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) RobinMasters is BB :js: :6h:
UTG calls $0.25, 4 folds, RobinMasters checks
Flop: :ac: :6s: :jd: ($0.60, 2 players)
RobinMasters bets $0.50, UTG calls $0.50
Turn: :qh: ($1.60, 2 players)
RobinMasters bets $1.30, UTG raises to $3, RobinMasters calls $1.70
River: :2h: ($7.60, 2 players)
RobinMasters checks, UTG bets $3, RobinMasters calls $3
Final Pot: $13.60
RobinMasters shows
:js: :6h:
UTG shows two pair, Queens and Jacks
:qs: :jh:
UTG wins $12.94 (net +$6.19)
RobinMasters lost $6.75
Napi gyöngyszem Ongame-ről. 30/10
Gondolom easy fold
$0.10/$0.20 No Limit Holdem
OnGame
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight | fold when you know you're beat
Stacks:
UTG ($20.64)
UTG+1 ($19.20)
RobinMasters (CO) ($19.70)
BTN ($42.37)
SB ($19.80)
BB ($21.03)
Pre-Flop: ($0.30, 6 players) RobinMasters is CO :5c: :ac:
2 folds, RobinMasters raises to $0.60, BTN calls $0.60, 2 folds
Flop: :9c: :tc: :9h: ($1.50, 2 players)
RobinMasters bets $1, BTN raises to $2, RobinMasters calls $1
Turn: :6c: ($5.50, 2 players)
RobinMasters checks, BTN bets $1.50, RobinMasters raises to $4, BTN raises to $9, RobinMasters goes all-in $17.10, BTN calls $8.10
River: :2h: ($39.70, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $39.70
RobinMasters shows FLUSH ACE
:5c: :ac:
BTN shows FOUR_OF_A_KIND NINE
:9d: :9s:
BTN wins $37.72 (net +$18.02)
RobinMasters lost $19.70
Nem megy a játék. Az a nagy rideg valóság. Összességében -1 BI mínusz Ongame-en, Stars-on a mai napom. De szarul játszottam, be kell vallanom.
Ongame-en folyamatosan szívok, semi tilt-jeim vannak fish-ektől. Folyamatosan megy fel az agyam az ISO pot-okban. Szerintem hamarosan lépek innen, mert nem jó irányba megyek, úgy érzem. Visszajött a régi érzés, amikor Ongame-től megcsömörlöttem.
Ha rámemelnek, akkor utólag kiderül, hogy a jobb lapot dobom. Ha pedig vitézkedek és próbálok indukálni, akkor egy monster-t sikerül kifizetnem. Indukálásból kezdek bukásra állni. Ha potcontrol-ozok, akkor csak összejön az a pár out a river-re és így tovább.
Lenyomtam 2,5 k hand-et és gyakorlatilag 4-5 hand-en megy el megint a nap.
Egyedüli bíztató momentum az volt, hogy a WWSF-emet 47%-ra sikerült feltornázni. Próbálok küzdeni a kasszákért. Jobb játékot mindenkinek